Boy, am I sick of renaming this thing
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Sep. 20th, 2006 | 02:02 am
Phoenix, that was a cool name. Damn you PhoenixBIOS. Firebird was good, and who needs another database anyway? Mozilla Firefox is a cute name, with a cute logo. A logo we can't use. Oh wait, we can't use the name either?
So the Mozilla Corporation has asked us to stop using the name "Firefox" in our version of Firefox, unless we use the fox on a globe logo. We can't use the logo because its copyright license is not free. Even if somehow we could do this, they want to vet every patch we apply before we release a package called Firefox containing it.
This puts us in a very difficult position. If there is no traction on the Mozilla side and Debian stands firm on the freeness of non-program files, I don't really see anyway around having to rename Firefox. So what should this new name be? Preferably something clever, nice sounding and not trademarked. I'd like it to be something other distributions can use if they're so inclined. And while Iceweasel is cute, and I enjoy the parody, I'm not sure it has enough sex appeal. Suggestions welcome.
So the Mozilla Corporation has asked us to stop using the name "Firefox" in our version of Firefox, unless we use the fox on a globe logo. We can't use the logo because its copyright license is not free. Even if somehow we could do this, they want to vet every patch we apply before we release a package called Firefox containing it.
This puts us in a very difficult position. If there is no traction on the Mozilla side and Debian stands firm on the freeness of non-program files, I don't really see anyway around having to rename Firefox. So what should this new name be? Preferably something clever, nice sounding and not trademarked. I'd like it to be something other distributions can use if they're so inclined. And while Iceweasel is cute, and I enjoy the parody, I'm not sure it has enough sex appeal. Suggestions welcome.

A name for TBFKAFF
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jtarrio
date: Sep. 20th, 2006 07:09 am (UTC)
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Iceweasel
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np237
date: Sep. 20th, 2006 07:31 am (UTC)
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Save the weasel!
from: anonymous
date: Sep. 20th, 2006 08:57 am (UTC)
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And don't forget to change Debian's name too
from: anonymous
date: Sep. 20th, 2006 09:01 am (UTC)
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I'm so happy that finally others discovered too that we have to stop calling ourselves Debian and using non licensed logos.
My suggestion is to call the project it simply "". Similar to Prince aka Symbol.
World Peace!
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Foxfire
from: anonymous
date: Sep. 20th, 2006 09:17 am (UTC)
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lordmuck
date: Sep. 20th, 2006 09:26 am (UTC)
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Firesomething
from: anonymous
date: Sep. 20th, 2006 10:05 am (UTC)
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There's a certain ring to naming something "Firesomething" out of silly copyright regulations ;)
Kim~*
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Iceweasel is stupid
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thumperward
date: Sep. 20th, 2006 11:26 am (UTC)
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- Chris
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Fire-you-know-what
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airstrip_one
date: Sep. 20th, 2006 12:10 pm (UTC)
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Whichever name do you choose, please make sure that it sounds silly enough.
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xtat
date: Sep. 20th, 2006 12:13 pm (UTC)
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I wonder if that would be covered under trademark law-- seemed to work for GNU.
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gravityboy
date: Sep. 20th, 2006 12:41 pm (UTC)
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A new name? What about..
from: anonymous
date: Sep. 20th, 2006 12:50 pm (UTC)
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If they caught fire, we'll cool'em off with water, they think they're smart as foxes, we'll show them we're free like lone wolves! :)
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Let the game beginn!
from: anonymous
date: Sep. 20th, 2006 01:10 pm (UTC)
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But we should be aware that we need to be prepared for several other Mozilla applications getting into that. So, why not take the opportunity to create a Debian related animal?
FireDolphin, ThunderDolphin ... hmm
FireTumbler, ThunderTumbler ... (not bad)
FireLemming, ThunderLemming ... (hehe)
And don't let us get too intellectual - Debian is for everybody. ;-)
Greetings,
slam
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just put mozilla-branded products in non-free?
from: aim1159
date: Sep. 20th, 2006 03:34 pm (UTC)
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Suggestion
from: anonymous
date: Sep. 20th, 2006 04:27 pm (UTC)
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my ideas
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date: Sep. 20th, 2006 04:32 pm (UTC)
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firefox -> spitfire
thunderbird -> thunderbolt
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swestrup
date: Sep. 20th, 2006 06:23 pm (UTC)
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*hound*
from: anonymous
date: Sep. 20th, 2006 06:55 pm (UTC)
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Icehound, Lightninghound -> as absolute conterparts...
Firehound, Thunderhound -> they sound somewhat better to me
My half of a cent,
xscript
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signing off
from: anonymous
date: Sep. 20th, 2006 08:05 pm (UTC)
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Being the Gnome testbed that it is, Ubuntu could get away with using Epiphany as the default browser.
Names.
Yanff/Yanafff (Yet another name for firefox).
I don't know if it's come up or not, but could one of you DD types ask the Mozilla people if they require signoffs for patches for browsers they no longer support themselves? I'd like to see how that one is justified.
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lumag
date: Sep. 20th, 2006 08:38 pm (UTC)
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from: anonymous
date: Sep. 20th, 2006 08:53 pm (UTC)
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Frigid Beaver
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date: Sep. 20th, 2006 10:11 pm (UTC)
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Beaver: a fluffy reddish animal similar to fox (http://www.thefreedictionary.com/beaver)
This would be the best name describing the cold unloving attitude Mozilla Foundation puts towards Debian, Red Hat, Suse and others. I hate myself saying that, but the problem with Mozilla Foundation is recent comemrcialisation (think: money of Google). Mozilla Foundation is increasingly becoming a corporate behemoth on Open Source Software scene. When people are directed with greed and corporate interests, they stop thinking socially.
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My Faves..
from: anonymous
date: Sep. 20th, 2006 10:14 pm (UTC)
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1> Freefox/Freebird
2> Firebrand/Thunderbrand
3> Spitfire/Thunderbolt
Thx!
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No more non-existant animals, please!
from: anonymous
date: Sep. 20th, 2006 11:35 pm (UTC)
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phlox
No, actually I'd prefer freefox or foxfire.
It should be noted that Google returns firefox search results for both of these.
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Fire Bird, Fire Ant, Firefly
from: anonymous
date: Sep. 21st, 2006 04:08 am (UTC)
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Fire Ant,
Firefly
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